I think that we could understand each other's positions more here if we could strip away the rhetoric and start objectively viewing things by degrees. There are not enough comitted anarcho/commie people in the u.s. or the world today to start any kind of violent revolution on a massive scale and if there was, such action would probably give birth to another "cult of personality", a stalin or tito. I think that the trick here is to look at the situation for what it is... an out of control capitalist mindfuck which poisons our bodies with heterocyclic carcinogens* and hydrogenated soybean oil; poisons our minds with televangelists and the Koran and Jessica Simpson's pussylips peeking out from her virginal daisy dukes; poisons the sky with the exhaust of a million S.U.V's made in china; gobbles up every remaining inch of nature to build a new suburb.

I'm not saying the world has to embrace Ted Kazinsky and go live in a cave and eat raw moss, but come on motherfuckers, back off a little bit from the capitalism! I like to smoke my cigar, but every once in a while I take it outta my mouth and rest it in the ashtray for a few minutes. The rich don't need to be that corpulent, and the poor don't need to be shit on that much.

( * motherfuckers started with coal tar derivatives, now your house, furniture, and clothing are all petroleum byproducts.)
I worked at a thrift store in Los Angeles a few years ago, high volume donations in exchange for tax deductions. From 9 to 5, everyday, yuppies would bring us nice stuff, piles of it, more than we could sell. Computer monitors that originally cost $400 but did not match the shiny new computer at home, and if the computer was older than 5 years, company policy was to hurl it into a dumpster where it would become a useless lump of glass, plastic, and lead, the lead of course sluicing through the crust of a landfill to rejoin our drinking water over time. Fucking waste everywhere, all because TV tells americans to get a newer computer, a newer car, bigger tits and stronger paxil and a flat screen tv even though the old one is fine. Progress is good, but we are no longer progressing towards newer, more useful stuff, just disposable gadgetry. After all, they scam the masses into buying it on credit, interest on a credit card bill is far more lucrative than well made products that will last you for years, and for that, you need disposable crap. Maybe we've got enough junk already, and we can take care of it and repair it and cannibalize it instead of paying a chinese factory worker $3 an hour to assemble your computer. Until they find people in india who will do the same job for $2. Although there are people in africa who will take $1. But some legless orphans in chambodia will take 50 cents. (an american woulda asked for $6, those greedy, lazy bums...)